How long will it take for my water to ever clear? Will it ever clear?

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Okay, I'm going to try to share my story if I have enough room in this one space left.

Between June and August, my father, in the work that he does, was at a customer's house one day, and noticed an aquarium at the back of the customer's house, with filter, lights and everything out in the grass, in the weather, and he asked the woman if she was going to keep the aquarium, and she said no, if he wanted it, he could have it...so there it was for the taking, and he got it free of charge, and so, he knew I was looking for an aquarium, and said he had found one...well, a week or two later, I took it around back, sprayed it out good with the water hose, bought some gravel and put in it, and then got some creek water and put in it. I hooked the filter up, but didn't have any filter media to put in it, and later on got a couple filter pads to put in it. Well, that weekend, I and my brother decided we would go to the creek and catch some small game fish to put in it...we caught a couple small bass, a couple sunfish, and a small bullhead...we later bought a minnow trap to catch minnows to feed the bass...the bass wouldn't take to the goldfish food very well, so I had to constantly hunt for worms, and catch minnows to feed the fish. Then I wondered, I can't keep these fish, as when winter time comes, all the minnows and night-crawlers go back under the leaves and ground away from the cold. So, I had to return them just when the snow started flying...needless to say, the fish took a shock from coming from the inside warmth, back out into the cold, snowy temperatures.

During the time that I had the game fish in the tank, it was constantly getting murky from feeding them nightcrawlers with the dirt still on them, so I was changing the water quite often to keep it somewhat clear, and had one or two fish prior to the last ones to die ... this was all before I started learning about the nitrogen cycle and whatnot. Well, after I put the game fish back in their respective native homes...I decided I would get some goldfish, started studying the different types, what have you...so, I got the orandas, five of them, have kept steady water changes since last November in the tank, and good filtration...2 double filter overflow types called Aqua-tech...both 45-60 gallon each, so it's turning the water over a great deal...and the water stays super crystal clear, I mean looks wonderful. I can see every detail in the tank, it crashed only one time, but I did a gravel sweep like I should have done several times before the crash, but it still stays crystal clear.
And the red-capped orandas, in addition to a white-skirted tetra, two lionheads, one ryukin, two chinese algae eaters, and one albino corydora, they are all very happy and growing like crazy...I mean, they are so fascinating, wonderful fish to keep.

Well, I had to have another tank, so I went and bought another 55 gallon tank, have had it since February or March, about three months, and for some unforeseen reason, it does not seem to want to cycle. In it, I have two fantails (calico), one red-capped oranda, three cordoras, two albino chinese algae eaters, at least I assume they're "chinese" algae eaters. Anyway, I'm doing 20% water change daily, and it still doesn't seem to be working. The fish seem happy, but the water stays nasty. I took the old gravel that had corn kernels in it, which I thought was what was messing the water up, which I'm sure it was, but I'm baffled now that the water continues to be murky, and has a bad, bad smell to it....real, real fishy like.

Let me ask something...do the algae eaters, the albinos carry a prolific type of bacteria that would cause such a cloudiness in the water to not go away?

I'm trying to isolate the problem so that I can fix it. Should I maybe use some distilled water or any other type besides the tap water I've been using?

In addition, what type of bacteria am I experiencing that is such a prolific bloomer?

I would really like to get to the bottom of this with some scientific basis to go by.

Thank you very much in advance for your most welcome input.

Answer 1

its over crowded and pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee listen to me im begging that you let those fish go, just go to a pet store and buy fish bass get big and its crowded.

Answer 2

Chinse algae eaters have many issues but they don't have a bacteria that causes water cloudiness. Your tank won't cycle because it has too many fish in it. I've been keeping tanks from before the age of fishless cycling so have used fish to cycle tanks often. You usually only put a few small fish in it to cycle it.



I dont' know what to tell you about the substrate with corn kernels in it. I've never heard of that but can see how decomposing corn kernels could foul a tank.

Answer 3

If u have high phosphates your water will look like crap. Also the excessive water changes arnt helping. Goto petco or online and order a green killing machine. Get the big one for the over crouded tank and the small one for your other tank. You will have clear water in days. Your problem is bacteria over population. Proably caused by too much bio mass in the water.

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