Question:
Rocks are NOT alive.?
anarchist210
2008-12-17 20:09:33 UTC
So, me and my friend are having an argument about how rocks are living or dead.
I say dead
He says alive.
They're dead, they don't grow they go through the rock cycle.
Who do you think is right?

This is our conversation - Start from bottom..





When molecules of the "solute"are in solution, most of the time they see only solvent molecules around them. However, occasionally they see other solute molecules.
If the compound is a solid when it is pure, there will be some attractive force between these solute molecules.
Most of the time when these solute molecules meet they will stay together for a little while, but then other forces eventually pull them apart.
Sometimes though, the two molecules stay together long enough to meet up with a third, and then a fourth (and fifth, etc.) solute molecule.

They're simply LATCHING ON. Yes, they're growing, but not living.
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Boe Mac.Duff
Date: Dec 17, 2008 10:01 PM


then define unassisted nucleation.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Taylør²
Date: Dec 17, 2008 10:01 PM



A crystal is a rock, it goes through the rock cycle, it doesn't just pull more crystals out of it's ***, it's other substances that latch on. Crystals like the ones in caves are made by dripping water [containing minerals] dripping down them and latching on. Crystals made in candy factories [rock candy] are made from sugar latching on. It's just the rock cycle.

And I still think muffins are different. You will never convince me otherwise.
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Boe Mac.Duff
Date: Dec 17, 2008 6:02 PM


what'd i tell you?
Rock are made of minerals. minerals are made of crystals, and crystals DO grow, through means of assisted and unassisted nucleation.
i don't care what the teacher says, i know what i'm talking about, and i HATE IT when people "put me down" or use retarded sciences to prove themselves right.

And you can make a muffin taste like a cake, and a cake taste like a muffin. the basic materials are the same, though a trend has formed in how you bake muffins, and cakes, and the trend has split with each item, making a "default" version of a muffin or cake in your mind.
Eleven answers:
foshizzle
2008-12-17 20:25:08 UTC
Here are the things that make an organism living:



1) has cells

2) capable of reproduction

3) the carrying out of metabolism

4) homeostasis (the maintenance of internal conditions despite the outside environment)

5) heredity

6) evolution

7) Interdependence (reacting with other organisms)



In order for something to be living, it must have ALL of the characteristics listed above.



1) rocks do not have cells

2) rocks do not reproduce

3) rocks do not have metabolism

4) rocks do not carry out homestatsis

5) rocks don't pass down genes (heredity) because they can't reproduce

6) rocks do evolve, but not in the same way as living organisms

7) rocks do not interact with organisms; however, organisms do react with rocks)



So, YOU are right - rocks are not living. Congratulations
Krysta
2015-02-21 01:44:07 UTC
They are actually.



I am a scientist. Yes, everyone thinks the whole idea is crazy. But the greatest minds were deemed crazy. Look at Bohm, who is a founder of quantum mechanics. You can t deny his reputation, and or his work. Disagree? Well if you don t have a degree/experience in grad level calculus, then what do you know. Sorry.



If you want to disagree with me, then think of this, what Bohm said in his case--



Similarly, he believes that dividing the universe up into living and

nonliving things also has no meaning. Animate and inanimate matter

are inseparably interwoven, and life, too, is enfolded throughout the

totality of the universe. Even a rock is in some way alive, says Bohm,

for life and intelligence are present not only in all of matter, but in

"energy, " "space, " "time, " "the fabric of the entire universe, " and

everything else we abstract out of the holomovement and mistakenly

view as separate things.



It is too much to go into where you people will actually understand. You need the proper education and experiences. So I will say this: the first poster- you are defining a very narrow definition, where definitions, like life are always evolving, and changing. Science, quantum mechanics has introduced more facts, where many people in western society aren t aware of. Many physicists believe it to be true "rocks are alive" because they are smart enough, and they study the very foundation of the universe/energy, which is what nature is composed of. You got to look at behavior, characteristics, process, rather than mere narrow definitions. The ones like you, who live in the past, that is who I laugh at. How will you learn, unless you try something new?



I am in the process of writing a thesis on rocks being alive, then proving it through real tests and experimentation.
rosemary151
2008-12-17 20:33:11 UTC
If rocks were alive, that means they'd be able to die. In fact, there's a reason people here recommend pet rocks sometimes, and that's because those people feel that whoever they're answering is not fit to care for anything alive; they can't kill rocks or make them suffer because rocks are not alive to begin with. The closest rocks ever come to dying is when they're cave formations that stop growing because someone touched it and the oil from their skin prevents any more water minerals from sticking to the formation, but the rock doesn't decompose as dead organisms do; it just stays the way it is.
TianTian
2015-12-02 14:46:08 UTC
Only organic materials are alive. Rocks and minerals are not. Thus I dont think you can put a bunch of rocks and minerals together to form a living being without having to include organic materials into your formula.
hillyard
2016-12-17 08:56:56 UTC
Alive Or Not Alive
Shelly
2008-12-17 21:07:49 UTC
Well, no, they aren't alive. They don't breath, die, walk, talk, etc. Rocks are just dirt/minerals melted together to form a hard mass. But when you look at the human body and see how much minerals and metals, plus water, its made of, you can see that we are basically a living and breathing mass of dirt (mud). In some way, miraculously with the breath of life, we are living human beings.
Excuse my charisma.
2008-12-17 20:19:26 UTC
Rocks have none of the characteristics of a living organism.



If your friend had gone through even 6th grade, he/she would know that.





Living things must be made out of cells, they must grow and develop (rocks GROW, but don't DEVELOP), obtain & use energy, reproduce in some way, and respond and adapt to their environment.



Pleaseeeee tell your friend that.

I would actually laugh really hard if someone tried to tell me a rock was living.
animal luver
2008-12-17 21:25:59 UTC
rocks are dead they can't live because it has nothing to live off of where in the WORLD did your friend get that idea no offense meant but isn't it kind of obvious
RB
2014-03-23 13:57:36 UTC
All things are either:

1)Inert>Unable to move under its own power/react to environment/grow

2)Alive>can move under its own power/react to environment /grow

3)Dead>once Alive, but no longer alive



Human Fetuses and Zygotes are not dead nor Inert, neither are they feline, canine, equine, so ...they are living humans who have another bigger human terminate their life



Logic 101, Biology 101, Common Sense
Allie C
2008-12-17 20:14:30 UTC
you are crazy if you actually think rocks are alive. Rocks are basically ancient dirt clumps mummified together. Pet rocks are not in fact pets! Sorry.
anonymous
2008-12-17 20:26:31 UTC
there are rocks and sand that are "live" they are used in salt water tanks. they how ever are not considered live until bacteria etc have grown.


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