Question:
A couple of quick questions for my new tank :)?
jonny
2011-04-19 22:13:56 UTC
Hi,
I just got my first tank ( 10 gal ) so far I have 3 quarter sized angle fish in there. My questions are:
How long until I need to put them in a bigger tank.?
How much food should I give them?
Suggested tank mates?
If I wanted to grow real plants in there what kind would you suggest and can I place the tank in sunlight for faster growth?
Seven answers:
?
2011-04-19 22:24:19 UTC
I hope you cycled that tank! .. The angels will be ok until they get to the size of a half dollar (anyone see these around anymore?) then they need to go to a larger tank.. Keeping them in a too small tank will stunt their growth and have them dieing before their time. Angels live 5 -8 years like most large cichlids. You feed them only as much as they eat in 10 - 15 minutes. Angels don't feed off the bottom as many other fish do. You can put a couple of cory catfish in there and they'll keep the bottom clean of excess food. The very worst thing you can do is over feed them.. Rotting food in a tank causes more problems than beginner fish keepers realize.



You don't have enough room to add anything else.



I suggest an amazon sword.. It too can over fill that tank, but it will be long after you'll have to have moved the angels to a larger tank. I once had a gorgeous amazon sword that nearly filled a 100 gallon tank, it was a big plant. There are many slow growing plants that will look good. I don't recommend 'floating' plants with no roots. They are messy and grow too fast. Sunlight is good - but you will find that you will get a lot of algae growing on the glass facing the sun, you may have to block a lot of the direct sun with paper or such.
?
2011-04-19 22:42:28 UTC
I can echo what Bob has said and add only a little.. Bravo Bob once again. You will be needing a new tank and SOON. You will be surprised how fast cold blooded animals grow.



Food - feed what they will eat in 5 minutes. There are some exceptions. Like I keep daphina in the tank and java moss for them to hide in. The fish then can hunt food all day, but daphina are fresh water creatures and only good for feeding occasionally as they have poor food value.



Here is a calculator to show you that..HTTP://aqadvisor.com

You can put in a 30 gallon long and you will find that it is about right - if you do 60 percent water changes per week. Of course, better filtering may give you a little wiggle room as would a sump tank and pump.



Get yourself a 40 gallon or larger tank and add some cory's to the mix. They will eat the extra food and help you maintain your tank. You'll actualy be changing less water in the tank if you go with a larger tank. If you want other fish, look at large tetras, but plan on buying an even larger tank.



Swords plants are great and there is a variety of them on the market. I have a nice red sword right now.



Again, if you follow Bob's advice, you won't be going wrong.
anonymous
2011-04-19 22:46:58 UTC
The info above is excellent, minus the bit about keeping three grown ones in a 10,



I just wanted to suggest Pearl Gouramis, they are my favorite fish and perfect mates for angels, make sure you get pearls though and not three spot gouramis, they are much nippier I had one once and he pestered my angels. But the pearls seem to like the angels and vice versa, and as far as fish intelligence go pearls and angels both seem to me to be at the top. [NOTE this may be bad advice if you plan to breed your angelfish, I have never had a male and female that paired but I just read they don't like gouramis once they do.]



I have always wanted to do a South american biotope tank, and will someday when I'm retired or something. I would do angels, discus, tetras, and ram cichlids, you may consider those, rams are easy but discus require a substantial commitment. and I second the vote for cory cats, angels don't have a good body for cleaning food out of the substrate so you definitely want something in there to keep it clean, I used to keep a Sylodontus Eupterus with my Angels and he was awesome, he would hide most of the day under a black log the same color as him, then come out at night to scour the bottom for food as the angels rested. you can get them at petsmart. Someone above said no floating plants, but I like them for angels, because unlike small streamlined fish that are unaffected by water currents, angels can easily get tipped off balance due to their shape, and if you have a high flow filter this can be a problem, so I use a few floating plants just to slow down the out flow from the filter so the angels dont tip over when coming up to the surface.
A
2011-04-19 22:30:28 UTC
u need minimum 55 gallon tank for u r angel ..........feed them 2-3 time a day don't overfeed the overfeeding can kill u r fish ..tank mates for angel r -Lemon Tetra

-Bleeding Heart Tetra

-Black Phantom Tetra

-Congo Tetra

-Fancy Guppys

-Tri color Shark

-Bristle nose Pleco

-Yoyo Loach

-Red Wag Swords

-Sailfin Mollys

-Rainbow Fish



For Angels, I include long leaf blade plants if I want a pair to mate, because that is where they lay their eggs. That variety of plant I usually keep under a taller bunch plant that will provide cover for the parents, and enable them to be more successful at rearing their young there because they feel the babies and themselves are safe.



I like to see enough open swimming area, some open substrate area, as well as low and mid height plants in areas and then lined with taller plants in the back(bring them out from the back about 1.5 to 2 inches). The bottom dwellers then get some open area to move about, the low, mid, and top fish have swimming room and cover above,(with floating and trailing plants),back, sides, and below.
Ca la G
2011-04-19 22:39:56 UTC
fully grown, they'll need 5 gallons each, and if 2 of those angel fish pare up, you'll need a 20 gallons tank and remove that 3rd one.



first, your tank is new, you should have only gotten one angel fish. but it's not too late to salvage your tank. do a 1 or 2 gallons water change every other day for about 2 week, then do a 1 or 2 gallons water change every 4 days for an additional 2 weeks, then as your bacteria colony grow, you may do a 2 or 3 gallons water change every 7 days.



as your tank is fully stocked now, don't add any more fish. not even a "sucker fish" they won't actually clean your tank, but only add more biological load. scrub the algae yourself, it would only take 30 seconds. if you ever have more room, avoid neon tetra, some species of angel fish hunt neon tetra for food.



my rule of thumb for any slim body fish is feed sparingly once a day, 6 days a week. the fast is to prevent the fish from over eating or you from over feeding. more fish die from overfeeding than starvation. never follow feeding direction on the bottle, they're direction is for you to use more food and buy more food. never feed 10 to 15 minutes. in fact, don't even feed as much as they will eat in 5 minutes. if you must use time, as soon as the flakes hit the water, set your timer on 45 seconds, remove all flakes after that. if you're feeding macro pellets, 3 pellets per day per angel fish will do.



don't put your tank by window, it's a death trap. if you want fast plant growth, you need real plant substrate and co2, but now that you have 3 fishes already, it is too late, the fertilizer substrate release ammonia, and once you add your plants, you're really not supposed to change water for a while. you can look into plants that require no substrate, fertilizer, dozing, co2, or bright light such as java moss.
anonymous
2011-04-19 22:22:08 UTC
10 gallons is plenty big for 3 angel fish which is awesome you don't need to move them to a bigger tank unless you want to, I would give them a good pinch of food if you are feeding flakes and look to see if there is any left over after they are done if so then cut back a little. I love orange dwarf platys for tank mates they are very friendly & stick together they don't bother the other fish so get at least two ..also neons are great little fish and pretty. I have always used live plants in my tank they are better for your fish I can't remember the names of the plants I have gotten but I just pick a variety from the pet store. Anyways hope this was helpful have fun with your new tank :)
anonymous
2016-12-16 11:00:49 UTC
definite a mushroom will open and close. The reddish green isn't stable. You the two overfeeding or no longer doing adequate water variations. definite the algae is undesirable. Do a super water substitute. stay sand in user-friendly terms works as stay sand whilst it is a minimum of 5 inches deep. Any ingredient much less is in user-friendly terms a super stable place to catch airborne dirt and dirt.


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